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Pension Issues
Presented by John E. Bartel, President
Bartel Associates, LLC
April 2, 2014
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Agenda
CCCERA Compared to Ca1PERS 1
Is one system safer, cheaper, etc. than the other?
Defined Benefit versus Defined Contribution 3
Major risks for each?
Who assumes risk?
Cost if target benefit at retirement is the same?
Benefit at retirement if cost (annual contribution) is the same?
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CCCERA COMPARED TO CALPERS
■ Cost for any retirement system
Contributions = Benefit Payments + Expenses — Investment Return
• Contribution policy can result in short term volatility
• Ultimately, if benefits are the same then Investment Return — Expenses
drives plan cost
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CCCERA COMPARED TO CALPERS
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30.0% —
20.0%
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10.0%
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-10.0%
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CCCERA (12,13 1)
-20.0%
30.0%
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DEFINED BENEFIT VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION
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DEFINED BENEFIT VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION
Can vary from year to
year
Can vary from year to
year
Employee
Contributions
Always 100%
Employer
Contributions
Typically 100% after 5 or
10 years.
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Employee
Employer
Vestin
(How much of the
promise does employee
"own" ?)
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Usually set by statute but
can be negotiated
Varies from one year to
the next — "Whatever is
Necessarv"
Employee
Contributions
Always 100%
Retirement Benefit
Typically 100% after 5 or
10 years.
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DEFINED BENEFIT VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION
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Very Portable
Retirement
Generally Very Portable
Employee takes vested
Employee chooses
account balance with
between
them when leaving.
1. deferred retirement
Significant tax
benefit (benefit earned
disadvantage for amounts
while at City, protected
distributed and not
by "salary" inflation if
"rolled over" < age 59%2.
working for most CA
public agencies) or
2. accumulated employee
contributions with
interest
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DEFINED BENEFIT VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION
Pre - retirement - Same as
retirement, except
employer contributions
become 100% vested at
death
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Death
Who Accepts
Risk. & Reward
Investment Return
Mortality
Retirement
Inflation
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Pre - retirement —
Employee contribution
with interest
Post - retirement —
Employee can elect
lower benefit to
provide survivor
continuance
DEFINED BENEFIT VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION
■ Studies consistently show defined contribution plans earn 1 to 2 percentage
points less (net of expenses) than defined benefit plans
• DC plan investments tend to be more conservative
• DC plan expenses tend to be higher as a percentage of assets
■ For individual to be certain they get benefit for life they must:
• buy an annuity
• accumulate more than is necessary on average or
• run the risk of outliving balance
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COST IF TARGET BENEFIT AT RETIREMENT IS THE SAME
■ If target is to replace 60% of earnings at age 65 retirement
• DB plan does this with 13% of pay (7% assumed earnings)
• DC plan does this with 18% of pay (6% assumed earnings)
• DC plan does this with 21% of pay (5% assumed earnings)
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BENEFIT AT RETIREMENT IF CONTRIBUTION IS' SAME
■ If contribution each year is 10% of earnings the benefit for age 65 retirement
• DB plan gets to 50% of pay replacement (7% assumed earnings)
• DC plan gets to 35% of pay replacement (7% assumed earnings)
• DC plan gets to 30% of pay replacement (7% assumed earnings)
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