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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBOARD MINUTES 10-20-88 174 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING OF THE DISTRICT BOARD OF THE CENTRAL CONTRA COSTA SANITARY DISTRICT HELD ON OCTOBER 20,1988 The District Board of the Central Contra Costa Sanitary District convened in a regular meeting at its regular place of meeting, 5019 Imhoff Pl ace, Martinez, County of Contra Costa, State of California, at 3:00 p.m. on October 20,1988. President Rainey called the meeting to order and requested that the Secretary call roll. 1. RŒ. L CAL L PRESENT: Members: Boneysteele, Dalton, Clausen, Rainey ABSENT: Members: Carlson Member Carlson entered the meeting at the hour of 3:03 p.m. II. PUBLIC COMMENTS Mr. Ken Little, attorney representing Orinda-Moraga Disposal Service, Incol addressed the Board concerning Item X.loc., Richmond Surcharge. Mr. Little stated that to date Orinda-Moraga Disposal has not come to the Board with regard to th is matter because no surcharge has been paid. However, the attorney for Richmond telephoned and indicated that the surcharge has been 1 ev ied and i s accrui ng. Orinda-Moraga Disposal requests that this matter be calendared for consideration by the Boa rd . Mr. Roger J. Dol an, General Manager-Chief Engineer, indicated that his report on this item will be brief. Mr. Dolan thanked Mr. Little for the comments and indicated that any further information would be welcomed. III. APPRO¡ AL OF MINUTES 1. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 6,1988 It was moved by Member Dalton and seconded by Member Clausen, that the minutes of October 6,1988, be approved as presented. There being ,no objection, the motion was approved with Member Carlson being absent. IV. CONSENT CAL ENDAR It was moved by Member Cl ausen and seconded by Member Dal ton, that the Consent Calendar, consisting of twelve items, be approved as recommended, resolutions adopted as appropriate, and recordings duly authorized. 1. Resolution No. 88-134 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from ADAPT CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, Orinda area (J ob 4543 - Parcel 6) was adopted and recordi ng authorized. . Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Clausen, Dalton, Boneysteele, Ra iney NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Ca rl son 2. Resolution No. 88-135 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from FOSTORIA ASSOCIATES, L TO., San Ramon area (Job 4417 - Parcel 9) was adopted and recording authorized. Motion approved on the following vote: .' (.10 t 20 88 175 AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Dalton, Boneysteel e, Rainey NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carl son 3. Resolution No. 88-136 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from N. E. BOTTORFF, et al, Walnut Creek area (Job 4011 ext. - Parcell) was adopted and recording authorized. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Membe rs: Cl ausen, Da 1 ton, Boneysteel e, Ra i ney NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carlson 4. Resolution No. 88-137 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from CANYON GREEN HOMEONNERS ASSOCIATION, San Ramon area (J ob 4536 ParcelS) was adopted and recordi ng authorized. . Motion appr'oved on the following vote: AYE S: Members: Cl ausen, Dalton, Boneysteele, Ra i ney NOES: Membe rs: None ABSENT: Members: Carl son 5. Resolution No. 88-138 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from DIABLO LODGE PARTNERSHIP, Danville area (Job 4515 - Parcel 2) was adopted and recording authorized. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Da 1 ton, Boney steel e, Ra i ney NOES: Membe rs: None ABSENT: Members: Carl son 6. Resolution No. 88-139 accepting an easement at no cost to the District from COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SUPPLY COMPANY, Walnut Creek area (Job 1376 - Parcel 4) was adopted and recording authorized. . Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Dalton, Boneysteele, Rainey NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Ca rl son 7. Authorization was given for P.A. 88-22.(Alamo) to be included in a future formal annexation to the District. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Dalton, Boneysteele, Ra i ney NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carlson 8. Resol ution No. 88-140 was adopted, certify ing that the Board has reviewed and considered the Final Environmental Impact Report prepared by the Town of Danville; adopting the proposed f indi ngs of staff; ordering the Secretary of the Di strict to f il e a Notice of Deterinination; and ordering the territory contained in the Rassier Ranch Boundary Reorganization (LAFCO 88-27), District Annexation 105, annexed. . .. , 10..20.' 88 176 Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Da 1 ton, Boney steel e, Rainey NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carlson President Rainey commended staff for the completeness of the documentation accompanying this item. 1. 9. The contract work for the construction of the Replacement of Existing Deficient Sewer Facil ities Project in Martinez, Orinda, Pl easant Hill, and Wal nut Creek <D i strict Proj ect 4327) was accepted and the filing of the Notice of Completion was author lz ed. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Clausen, Da 1 ton, Boney steel e, Rainey NOES: Members: None AB SENT: Members: Ca rl son 10. The Board was advised of the close out of the Furnace Control Roan Phase I and II Project <District Project 3694.5) ,and the Overall Incinerator Repairs and Modification Project and the return of $8,300 to the Trea1ment Pl ant Program Budget. Th is item was presented for the Board's information. No action was taken. 11. Staff was authorized to secure the services of an arbitrator in accordance with Articl e III, Section 3.3.B and 3.4.B of the Memorandum of Understanding between Central Contra Costa Sanitary District and the Employees' Association, Publ ic Employees' Local No.1 in the matter of the appeal of Mr. Rob Ramsay. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Da 1 ton, Boneysteele, Ra i ney NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carlson 12. Attendance of Richard Boy 1 an, Veh icl e and Equi pment Mechanic, at Air Brake Training School on October 24-28, 1988, in Reno, Nevada, was approved. Motion approved on the following vote: AYES: Members: Cl ausen, Dalton, Boneysteel e, Rainey NOES: Members: None ABSENT: Members: Carlson Member Carlson entered the meeting at the hour of 3:03 p.m. CALL FOR RBlUESTS TO CONSIDER ITEMS OUT OF ORDER None v. APPROI AL OF EXPENDITIJRES EXPENDITURE LIST DATED OCTœER 20, 1988 Member Dalton, member of the Budget and Finance Committee, stated that he and Member Boneysteele reviewed the expenditures and found them to be satisfactory. 10};:20 ,:,:,..." ,1 "', 88 177 It was moved by Membe r Da 1 ton and seco nded by Membe r Boney stee 1 e, that the Expenditure List dated October 20, 1988, incl uding Self-Insurance Check No. 100306, Running Expense Check Nos. 42097-42360, and Sewer Construction Check Nos. 6320-6366, be approved as recommended. There b~ing no objection, the motion was unanimously approved. VI. BUDGET AND FINANCE 1. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 1988 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS Mr. Dolan, General Manager-Chief Engineer, reported that Mr. Walter Funasaki, Finance Officer, is attending a seminar on money management for governments. Normally we woul d have a quarterly report on revenue accounts at this time. Member Clausen has indicated an interest in the revenue in some of those accounts. With the Board's indulgence, we would propose to hold that report until Mr. Funasaki is present. The Board voiced no objection. Mr. Dolan introduced Mr. Steve Elsberry, Accounting Supervisor, who reviewed the results of Operations and Maintenance, for the, month of September 1988, noting that expenditures were within $200 of budget or essentially equal to budget. Year-to-date expenses for the quarter ended September 30, 1988, were $434,000 less than budget, representing a 7.9 percent favorable variance. The District's temporary investments were held in collateral ized certificates of deposit, bankers acceptances, commercial paper, Treasury bills and notes, and the District's Local Agency Investment Fund (LAIF) account with interest rates ranging from 8.4 percent to 6.6 percent. The latest interest rate as of September 30, 1988, was 8.17 percent. The average yield for the LAIF account through August 1988 was 8.27 percent. Mr. Jay S. McCoy, Construction Division Manager, reported on the private developer projects installed in the District and the facilities we have obtained through that process. There are currently 73 private sewer projects in design review and 89 under construction. These facilities are considered contributed assets. In 1988-1989 these private developer proj ects represent $5.3 mill i on worth of work. Mr. McCoy displayed a map showing the areas where these activities are concentrated and discussed the work load of the inspectors assigned to each area. In response to a, question from Member Boneysteele, Mr. Dolan indicated that the permit counter process would be calendared as an Engineer's Report item at a future Board meeting. At the conclusion of the reports and discussion, President Rainey declared that the September 1988 Financial Statements were duly received. VII. PERSONNEL 1. ADOPT A NEW QASS DESCRIPTION FOR EI\GINEERING SUPPORT SUPERV ISOR 5-70 ($3,149-$3,812) AND DELETE THE OLD CLASS DESCRIPTION FOR ,ENGINEERING SUPPORT SUPERVISOR $-68 ($3,000-$3,633) Mr. Dolan, General Manager-Chief Engineer, stated that when this matter was reviewed with the Personnel Committee, details with regard to education and experience required for the position had not been resolved pending discussions with other agencies. Those discussions have now taken place and the appropriate level of education and experience for the position is set forth in the job description attached to the position paper. Member Cl ausen, member of the Personnel Committee, stated that he and President Rainey reviewed this matter with staff. Member Clausen stated that initially the Committee was concerned since it appeared that the responsibilities of the position decreased and the salary increased. However, a more detailed review showed that the level of responsibility actually increased with the addition of responsibility for implementation of the $1.5 million automated mapping/computer-aided design (AM/CAD) system. Member Cl ausen stated that the Personnel Committee recommends approval of this item. :"í, <,.1 O"'~"""2~;' '.. 88 ";",'--;"" '::;, v.", 178 It was moved by Member Clausen and seconded by Member Rainey, that the cl ass description for Engi neering Support Superv isor, Range S-68 ($3,000-$3,633), be deleted and the new class description for Engineering Support Supervisor, Range S-70 ($3,149-$3,812), be adopted. There being no objection, the motion was unanimously approved. VIII. SQID WASTE LETTER TO CONTRA COSTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERV ISORS CONCERNING RATE REGULATION OF ACME INTERIM TRANSFER STATION 1. Mr. Dol an, General Manager-Ch ief Engi neer, di rected the Board' 5 attention to the revised draft letter to the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors concerning rate regulation of the Acme interim transfer station. The rev ised draft contains minor editorial changes. Staff would be most receptive to any Board input on this letter. Board discussion followed concerning the tone and length of the 1 etter. It was moved by Member Boneysteel e and seconded by Member Dalton, that the letter to the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors concerning rate regulation of the Acme interim transfer station be approved as modified incorporating the suggestions for a more positive tone and that the President of the Board of Di rectors be authorized to execute said letter. There being no objection, the motion was unanimously approved. 2. BREACH OF CONTRACT APPEAL BY PLEASANT HILL BAY SHORE DISPOSAL AND ORINDA-MORAGA DISPOSAL SERV ICE, INC. AND ENFORCEMENT OF FRANOiISE CONTRACT PROI ISIONS REGARDING RATE REGULATION President Rainey opened the hearing to consider the breach of contract appeal by Pleasant Hill Bay Shore Disposal and Orinda-Moraga Disposal Service, Inc. and enforcement of franchise contract provisions regarding rate regulation. Mr. Kent L. Alm, Associate Counsel for the District, provided background and legal perspective with regard to the provisions of the refuse collection franchise agreement relating to the breach of contract issues before the Board. Mr. Alm indicated that the Board was provided with letters requesting information from the franchisees and permission for Price Waterhouse to perform a rev few of Acme Landf 111 Corporation' 5 financial records to evaluate the appropriateness of the tipping fees. The franchi~ees were warned of the consequences for not providing the requested information. Mr. Alm noted that the franchisees' counsel stated in his letter and verbally in discussion with District staff, that the franchisees did not provide the information because it was legally impossible to provide it. Mr. Alm explained the legal defense of legal impossibil ity to comply, noting that the breaching. party has the responsibility of demonstrating whether or not there is a legal impossibility of providing required information. Staff felt they did not receive enough information to make a determination to convince them that this was legally impossible, so they were left with no alternative but to make a determination that there was a breach. When Acme Fill closes in a fed months, this specific issue will no longer exist. However, the matter of contractual rights and principle will remain. The District does not know what the future will bring. This issue of affiliated entities can be expected to still exist in future years. It is not possible to know what sort of joint ventures and partnerships may exist in the future to prov ide for di sposa 1 of ga rbage. For that reason, it was felt that this issue should not be allowed to pass. Some resolution should be reached so the District may obtain the information it needs in the future to set reasonable rates. Mr. Ken Little, attorney representing Orinda-Moraga Disposal Service, Inc. and Pleasant Hill Bay Shore Disposal, addressed the Board concerning the alleged breach of contract reviewing provisions of the franchise ,agreement. Mr. Little stated that legal impossibility was the reason given for not complying with the request of staff. However, much of that information was provided in the rate-setting process. Tonight we ;,.'. ~>.. ',1-0, ..;';-2~O ..' 8 8 '.." ",. . 179 are here to determine whether there was a breach. It is Orinda-Moraga's and Pleasant Hill Bay Shore's position that the information requested was not requi red under the terms of the contract. Mr. L ittl e stated that this is a non-issue. Mr. Little introduced into the record, the franchise agreements and the Arthur Andersen & Co. report presented during the rate-setting process. Mr. Little stated his appeal of the General Manager's decision and denied that there was a breach' of contract. The rate hearings have been concl uded, Acme Fi 11 will close before the next rate hearing. Waste from,Orinda-Moraga and Pleasant Hill Bay Shore is being diverted to other landfills. Sufficient information , was prov ided for the Board to act on the - rates. The rates set were , reasonable based on the following: 1. Valley Waste Management pays the same cost. 2. All three collectors franchised incurred and paid the costs. by the District actually 3. Arthur Andersen & Co. stated that Acme Fill was not a monopoly. Other landfills are being used. The Acme Fill cost was reasonable because it was a market rate since all alternatives were as great or greater in cost. In additi on, Mr. L ittl e stated that the franch ise agreement was not applicable to Acme Fill because it was not the expressed intent of the parties; it was not previously applied to Acme Fill; the contractors never provided this information in the past; the request appeared to be a imed at others than Acme Fill; the Di strict has never attempted to regulate Acme Fill in the past; and no new rates were received from Acme Fill over the prey ious year. Mr. Littl e reported that Mrs. Navone has sold her stock in Acme Fill. This issue only applies to Pleasant Hill Bay Shore at this time, and all their refuse is going to the Antioch landfill. Mr. Little stated that the collectors took all reasonable steps to get the information requested even though they were not required to do so by the franchise agreement. Mr. Little stated that he would reduce his comments to writing if the Board wished and the Board requested that he do so. The Board of Directors discussed the merits of the issues including application of the provisions of the franchise agreement to any affiliated entity including Acme Fill Corporation and the collectors' diversion of the waste to other landfills and the rates being charged at those landfills. Member Boneysteele asked Mr. Little what his clients' position would be if the District were to negotiate a termination of the franchise agreement and the garbage companies were no longer regulated by the District. Mr. Little indicated that he would explore that possibil'ity with his clients and report back to the Board. Member Boneysteele proposed that the Di strict negoti ate a termination of the contract and let the franchises go. Mr. Dolan, General Manager-Chief Engineer, reviewed the importance of the affiliated entity issue and the history of its incl usion in the franchise agreement. The Board's action with regard to the affiliated entity issue will be inferred by the franchisees to be precedent setting with regard to other affiliations such as the interim transfer ,station, which appears to be an unregulated affiliated entity, or with regard to Vall ey Waste Management and the proposed Ma rsh Canyon 1 andf ill. In his letters of May 18, 1988, Mr. Little stated that he would provide a legal explanation of the issue of ownership and whether the requested information was available. This was never provided. At tonight's meeting, Mr. Little stated that the District had no right to this information. Whether that statement is correct or not is a Board level decision. Mr. Little's comments with regard to market rates reference a competitive market place and not the monopoly situation which exists. Staff and the Board were well aware that Acme Fill Corporation was an affiliated entity during the franchise negotiation process. In the 1987 rate-setting process, one of the key issues was the increase in disposal costs for closure and post-closure maintenance, planning activity on a transfer station, and costs associated with transfer vans. The District had asked for i nformati on to ana lyze closure costs. We were tol d that '."::1"0'-".,:20-,;' "'88 I 180 the closure document was not final. The first year costs were based on estimates. The second year figures would be published after approval of the closure pl an and, therefore, were to be much better. The District was well within its rights to request the information that it did. The District never received the information it was promised. Mr. Dolan stated that there was a breach. Mr. Dolan stated further that it was his finding that this act alone was not a material breach in the sense that he would not recommend that the Board move against the franchise holders to take the franchise away. However, he believed that it is important to uphold the finding of a breach because he felt that it was important not to let the franchisees get away with refusing a lawful request by the District,for information under the terms of the franchises. . President Rainey closed the hearing at the hour of 4:39 p.m. deliberation followed. Board President Rainey stated that information was requested and it was not provided. There was a breach. The Board of Directors did not ignore the breach. There were split decisions during the rate-setting process. President Rainey voiced agreement with Mr. Dol an that this is not the time nor is it in the best interest of the publ ic to terminate the franchise when the County is facing a garbage crisis. However, the Board must decide what will be done in the future. Member Cl ausen stated that the critical issue is the question of impossibility. The General Manager-Chief Engineer should meet with legal staff to examine that question. Member Carlson supported Member Cl ausen' s recommendation and stated further that the exact information requested and prov ided must be determined and the means for curing the breach identified. Alternative courses of action were discussed. Mr. Hazard, Counsel for the District, stated that it is Mr. Little's responsibility to provide both legal and factual information on which the District can base its decision on legal impossibility. It was moved by Member Carlson and seconded by Member Boneysteele, that the Board finds that a breach occurred but that the breach was not material. Board discussion ensued prior to the vote on the motion. President Rainey stated that a breach of contract occurred and that the way in which this breach is handled will have direct bearing on future contracts. Member Boneysteele stated that the issue of.afflliation is an important issue and that a very serious breach occurred. However, it is not worth the District and the collectors spending additional time and money since this specific situation may not arise again with the imminent closure of Acme Fill. Member Carl son stated that a breach occurred because requested information was not provided. However, if the reasonableness of the rates is a point, the rates in other areas compare to those at Acme Fill. The Board. of Di rectors set reasonable rates without the hel p of the franchised collectors or Acme Fill. The collectors should be supportive of the Board and staff in trying to set reasonable rates. It is in the best interests of all concerned to conclude any further argument at this time. However, it is important to identify the legal provisions on which the District can stand in the future. Mr. Dolan indicated that staff work could be done in this area and a report made to the Board at a future Board meeting. President Rainey stated that she would vote against the motion because she strongly opposes the idea that the breach is not material. The Board wlll,come back to this issue many times, and this action could be precedent setting. Member Boneysteele stated his position that the breach is not material at this time; not that it was not material. during the rate-setting hearings. Following the discussion, the above motion was amended as follows: It was moved by Member Carlson and seconded by Member Boneysteele, that :.: / ';~1 O~. .. -.:2 0> ;.8 8 181 the Board finds that a breach occurred but that the breach is no longer material. Motion approved on the following roll call vote: AYES: Members: Carlson, Boneysteele, Dalton, Clausen NOES: Members: Rainey ABSENT: Members: None It was noted for the record that Member Clausen supported the motion but it was his opinion that the technical language should have been "was not material" rather than "is no longer material." IX. EMERGENCY SITUATIONS REQUIRING BOARD ACTION None X. REPORTS 1. GENERAL MANAGER-CHIEF ENGINEER a. Mr. Dolan, General Manager-Chief Engineer, briefed the Board on the recent meeting with Acme Fill representatives to discuss the status of transfer station plans. The meeting focused on the interim transfer station since the permanent transfer station plans are still unclear because the issue of a landfill site is yet to be resolved. There will be a period of time after Acme Fill closes and before the interim transfer station is completed when no transfer function will be possible. In-County transport by packer trucks may be avail abl e for those haul ers able to make such arrangements. It appears that Valley Waste Management may have a serious ,probl em if they are unable to make in-County , arrangements with in the next 60 days. b. Mr. Dolan reported that a meeting will be held with the Alamo Improvement Association this evening to discuss the proposed Valley Waste Management recycling program for the Alamo area. Meetings have been held with the Town of Danv ille and the City of Lafayette as well. Mr. Dol an briefly summarized the discussion at those meetings and indicated that more detailed comments would be provided at the public hearing on this matter scheduled for November 3,1988. Mr. Dolan briefly touched on issues that have come up with regard to the meetings between District staff and the representatives of Valley Waste Management. Future meetings to negotiate the recycl ing program and potential changes in the rate-setting structure will be held with Mr. John Garity, of SAWDCO. c. Mr. Dolan reported that District staff and our attorney will be meeting with Mr. Everett Jenkins, of the City of Richmond, and an outside attorney they have hired to discuss the $10.56 surcharge being imposed on Orinda-Moraga waste disposed of at West Contra Costa Sanitary Landfill. It is staff's opinion that this surcharge should be aggressively resisted by the District. Staff will continue to work on this matter and advise the Board of any developments. d. Mr. Dolan reported that Board Members Carlson and Clausen and Di strict staff met with representatives of Tri-Valley Wastewater Authority (TWA) today to discuss the status of their plans. We explained the status of District projects. A discussion followed concerning the problems TWA is confronting with regard to the East Bay Municipal Utility District joint project. A future meeting may be scheduled between TWA and District staff to investigate technical issues. The possibility of some sort of cooperative effort with regard to sl udge and ash di sposal was discussed as well. e. Mr. Dolan introduced Mr. Jack Campbell, Administrative Operations Manager, who reported to the Board on the California Sanitation Risk Management Authority (CSRMA) JPA insurance pool. In order to provide a framework for the report, Mr. Campbell provided background on the District's past, present, and future loss experience. Mr. Campbell reviewed the scope of the CSRMA program and indicated that the District would be subject to a $500,000 retention, $4.5 million 10,:,20 " ',.",,' '\ ~, .. " 88 ~ of , 182 excess coverage, and an initial year's premium of $375,000. The method for calculating the premium to join the CSRMA program does not take into consideration loss experience or the existence of a risk management program. Mr. Campbell recommended that the District not join the CSRMA J PA insurance pool. The Board thanked Mr. Campbell for the informative report and indicated that they were well pleased with the District's Risk Management Program. f. Mr. Dolan announced that the District is currently advertising for Installation of Influent Gate Operators Project. The engineer's estimate is $78,000. g. Mr. Dolan announced that he will be out of town and unable to attend the Board Meeting of November 17,1988. 2. COUNSEL FOR THE DISTRICT None 3. SECRETARY OF THE DISTRICT a. Ms. Joyce E. McMillan, Secretary of the Distr,ict, distributed the 1988-1989 CASA Di rectory and commended Ms. Harriette Stahl and Messrs. Ken Grubbs, Son Nguyen, and Bob Pringl e for thei r work on the directory. 4. BOARD MEt43ERS a. Member Dalton reported that County staff has completed work on the rev isi ons to the County Solid Waste Management Pl an. The rev ised Plan will be presented to the Board of Supervisors on October 18,1988. b. Member Boneysteele reported that the next meeting of the' Regional Recycl ing Advisory Committee has been changed from November 4, 1988 to November 15,1988. c. Member Clausen reported that the Solid Waste Export MOU Negotiating Committee will be meeting with San Joaquin County ,and Solano County next week. XI. ANNaJ NCEMENTS None XII. Q OS ED SESSION None XIII. ACTIONS RESULTING FROM DISCUSSIONS IN ClOSED SESSION None XIV. ADJ aJRNMENT There being no further business to come before the Board, President Rainey adjoined the meeting at the hour of 6:03 p.m. esident of the ,oard of Directors Central Contra Costa Sanitary Distri t, County of Contra Costa, State of Cal ifornia COUNTERSIGNED: C ly/, 'i/\ ' . C' ,. (1,/ i,..) .l ; 1""-- Se~r, ary of the Central Contra Cdsta Sanitary District, County of Contra Costa, State of California 'íó ::20'8'8